Character Relationships Discussion Jake and Cassie

[buffyangellvr23.livejournal.com]

Early postage because tomorrow's going to be a bit busy and I'm afraid I'll be too tired by nighttime. I'm just going to start at the top...can I collaborate with someone on a list, so I can keep everything straight? I'd appreciate it.



As I've probably said before, I enjoyed the ship, and was kind of sad when it didn't end happily. Was that another of KAA's 'war is hell' parts? Of course, we all know the technical reason was Jake's emptying of the pool on the ship. Anyway, it was cool through most of the series, at least if you're okay with Cassie. For me she isn't a favorite, but I don't hate her either. And of course there has to be a mention of the kiss in The Attack...that was a nice scene.

Comments

[blue_rampion]

Well, if everything had been normal neither of them would have been changed by the events of the war. And the war is also what brought them together in the first place - so who knows what would have happened without it? For all we know, they'd have never gotten together at all.

Jake might have decided to forgive Cassie for the blue box thing...but hell, there's no way something like that wouldn't put a strain on a relationship. And I always read Jake's proposal as more of an attempt to grab at some kind of normalcy in the midst of all that chaos. Things just weren't all peachy keen even before the events of the last book - they both made choices that hurt each other. Might that have stayed together without Jake's PTSD? Sure, it's possible. But they'd still have had those issues that they needed to get through to make it work.

Now, if you were talking about Jake and Cassie before the final arc of the series, that's a different story. If the war had somehow magically ended then, I could definitely have seen them keeping the relationship afterwards without any trouble.

[sherrilina.livejournal.com]

Well they already had crushes on one another, and she was friends with his cousin, so I can see it happening despite the war potentially, though receiving the power to morph certainly did push them together (but then the end of the war ruined them). And we'll have to agree to disagree about the cube, after they made up their manner was no longer strained but more or less back to normal, aside from Cassie's fears/response to his proposal (which was in part a grasp at normalcy I agree, but also him just clinging to Cassie more so--I mean as he admits, asking your 16-year-old semi-girlfriend to marry you isn't exactly normal)--it was only after the thing with Tom and Rachel goes down that the huge distance between them really springs up, even in the immediate aftermath (though at least she was perceptive enough to react as Jake needed and not do the wrong thing there in that scene). *shrug*

[blue_rampion]

Oh, there was still potential for them without the war, certainly - it's just not really possible to know for sure.

Whether the box was an influencing factor or not, my main point was that Jake killing the Yeerks wasn't the one and only reason - there were multiple reasons, from Jake's depression to Cassie's decision to not go after him herself to a bunch of other little things.

[jedifreac.livejournal.com]

Including killing Rachel. Some fans speculate the proposal was to throw her off so that she wouldn't notice he was sending Rachel to her death. I wonder if Cassie ever wondered the same thing.