Character Discussion: Elfangor

[buffyangellvr23.livejournal.com]

I don't think I got him yet. We only saw a little of him in book one, plus the special books had him. Andalite Chronicles especially. I sometimes wish the group had gotten a chance to know him better, that he'd been around longer, and not just because of Tobias.

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[lisacharly.livejournal.com]

That's not the one I was thinking of, but it's true! Good find! I'm pretty sure Marco gives off a similar statement at some point mid-series, despite being all "kill me if they try to infest me dude" in #1.

[natural-blue-26.livejournal.com]

Do you mean DUN DUN DUN after he finds out about Eva, perhaps? ;)

[lisacharly.livejournal.com]

Actually, I think it was less to do with that (though that probably factored in) than with the fact that in #1, he hadn't really reckoned with the chance at dying like he had by mid-series. Like, it's easy to say "better dead than..." if you've never actually come close to death.

BUT THEN AGAIN I MAY BE TOTALLY HALLUCINATING THIS QUOTE.

[ghaweyriao.livejournal.com]

I just looked through the scene where Marco finds out about his mom and couldn't find anything. I really can't see Marco wanting to die, though, when it comes down to it. Especially how, in the beginning, he was the most afraid of dying of all of them. This may just be me but he doesn't have that kamikaze attitude like Rachel does.

[ghaweyriao.livejournal.com]

Ah ha! Found it. From 5, right after they caught by Visser Three:

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Ah ha! Found it. From 5, right after they caught by Visser Three:

<We're better off making a run for it!> Rachel said.

<It would be suicide,> I said. <As long as we're alive, there's hope.>

[lisacharly.livejournal.com]

Yay! I'm not crazy! I've been going through #5 with a fine-tooth comb for an art project and haven't gotten to the V3 scenes yet, but I KNEW he said something to that effect. Thanks!

And yeah, Marco totally doesn't want to die. There are times in the series where he's willing to sacrifice himself for the good of team/mission/cause, but he's definitely the highest Ani on the self-preservation side. Pretty much a huge reason he's still on the team in #3 is because he thinks they'll all get caught and thus get him caught.

...And also Elfangor was cool. Didn't mean to drag this into a Marco discussion.

Mostly what I'm saying is that they tend to waffle on it. And the Anis do seem to make a conscious effort not to kill when possible, at least not human-Controllers. They poke out a lot of eyeballs and hack off a lot of fingers, but it's not until like, #51 that we see any of them actually target and kill a human on-page. So if they really subscribed to "better free than dead", they'd have probably done a lot more killing.

[ghaweyriao.livejournal.com]

What kind of art project?

Exactly. That's one of the reasons I always liked Marco, for I am a coward. :)

yeah, off topic is off topic.

Yeah, you're right, it's not a constant thing. But that just makes the scenes where they *do* pull it out sort of weird. There's just this tension that's never really explicitly dealt with, I suppose.

Plus, they still hold human life to a higher standard than Hork-Bajir/Taxxon. Which I can understand - it really wouldn't be realistic another way - but it's still rather sketchy.

[lisacharly.livejournal.com]

I'm doing a comic book version of #5 to get me back into doing art. It's actually hella fun. I'm nine pages in so far, but some of them aren't loaded yet, and I haven't uploaded the ones Dovelina lettered for me (I want to wait until I'm over halfway done with the book before I start officially putting them somewhere). Some of the unlettered pages are on my DA (http://hotpinkcoffee.deviantart.com/), though.

It's totally sketchy, but I guess that's just what kids do. Or what humans do. Hell, here in the US we report military deaths in terms of how many Americans die - having something in common automatically moves someone up our priority list. It's definitely unfair, but possibly how our brains work.