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Before we get into the minor character discussions, there is a topic I've been wanting to bring up here - discrimination and how they are dealt with and portrayed in the books. We see examples of racism, speciesism, sexism, and discrimination against the disabled, but they're all examined to different degrees and in different ways.

With racism, we see that most prominently with Cassie ("I can turn white" indeed). Marco gets all of one line about being followed by mall security, but they're both characters that would have both dealt with racism in their lives. But overall, while it's brought up on occasion we don't really go too heavily into this issue.

Now, speciesism - that we see a ton of, and I'd argue that a lot of the issues that usually come up in a discussion of racism are in fact explored through speciesism. All of the various aliens have opinions and stereotypes of the other aliens - the Andalites are 'arrogant', the humans are just meat to the Yeerks, the Yeerks are all 'evil', and Hork-Bajir and all nice and sweet and stupid. They've all got preconceived notions of each other, some of them good but a lot of them not good.

Sexism isn't gone into too much, but the series touches on it every now and then - Rachel's got some strong feminist leanings, and we have the Axis of Awesome assuming that the Governor is a man.

And as for discrimination against the disabled...well, we definitely go into that, and this is definitely one of the major failings of Andalite culture.

There's probably also other forms of discrimination in the books that I can't think of, but my questions to you are: Do you think the series do a good job of depicting these issues? Could it (and should it) have gone into more detail on any of them?

Date: 2010-10-03 02:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anijen21.livejournal.com
I have a way different reading of the Hork-Bajir Chronicles, so no.

Date: 2010-10-03 03:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anijen21.livejournal.com
I don't remember the Andalites deliberating that the presence of Dak did anything to redeem the Hork-Bajir, and I really don't believe that the decision to use the Quantum Virus was due to race or any other factor except cold pragmatism.

And to be honest, I don't believe there ever WAS a decision to use the Quantum Virus.

I've talked about this before, and part of me wants to save the bulk of it for the Alloran discussion, but basically I don't believe the Quantum Virus was made with the intention of being used, just like I don't think the vast majority of atomic weapons are made with the intention of being deployed. I think Alloran wanted to start a cold war where the stakes were biological instead of nuclear and dumbasses Aldrea and Dak got in the way.

BUT MORE ON THAT LATER. Or just look back to this runthrough's discussion of the hork-bajir chronicles, idk

Date: 2010-10-03 05:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tobiahawk.livejournal.com
Well, when you're planning to kill off an ENTIRE SPECIES, then, yes, race (or rather species) enters into the equation. You have to believe the benefits of killing them is worth more than the survival of that species, so you're making a judgement as to the worth of the species, relative to the benefit to the war. And the Hork Bajir were seen, IIRC, as a dim-if-well-natured species, not of particular use to Andalites as a group.

As for whether the Quantum virus was meant to ever be used... interesting point.

Date: 2010-10-04 10:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] devimelete.livejournal.com
Except the Andalites at large didn't deliberate on the virus, didn't they? It was all Alloran's choice, or rather a small number of them. One Andalite even snapped back at a newly-freed Alloran that Alloran operated alone and therefore his prince-status is in jeopardy even though he's been lol a controller all this time.

Date: 2010-10-04 10:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anijen21.livejournal.com
well I'm not arguing that point at all--certainly Alloran made an autonomous decision, I think he was just blamed for making the wrong one. Yes, it's not in dispute that he chose to MAKE the Quantum Virus, I just believe the fact that he inteded to USE IT is.

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