Character Discussion: Cassie

[buffyangellvr23.livejournal.com]

Here goes...the character who often seems to get the most negativity, and sometimes it's for good reason. I know my LJ folder is gonna be swamped this week, but I'll turn you loose anyway LOL

I do like the animal loving part myself...but there are things that some of you say about her that I can see as well...both positive and negative.

Comments

David babble? Yes please

[natural-blue-26.livejournal.com]

And she's so good at manipulating because she genuinely cares for people. I think she genuinely cared about David, was genuinely concerned for him - even though she disagreed with his actions. She was able to manipulate him so well because she cared. However, this clearly has a cost - Cassie did not like having to do that to David. Cassie doesn't like manipulating people to hurt them. I don't think that she has the same problem with manipulating people to help them (or at least, what she perceives as helping them).

This is an interesting point, and I'm sure there's a psycho-babble name for people that do this because IT'S FOR YOUR OWN GOOD. (Dumbledor-ish, in a way.)

That and there's the added guilt that she is obviously the only Animorph David trusts and is ergo the last one he would suspect to pull something like this on him. (He buys the 'Rachel did it!' side of that hook, line, and sinker, right?)

And then she goes and condemns him to a fate (depending on who you ask, and he certainly seems to think so) worse than death... For his own good. That's COLD IMO.

clearly we need a discussion for him too at some point

[blue_rampion]

Cassie = Dumbledore? XD (Now there's a crazy fan theory...)

He trusts her because she's that kind of person who always seems trustworthy. And also I imagining that in sympathising with him, Cassie also gave the impression that she agreed with him, when that wasn't the cast.

And that decision's an interesting one - because when you think about it, it's rather similar to the euthanasia debate. On the one side, the view that life is the most important thing and must be preserved. On the other side, the view that quality of life is the most important thing and that if quality of life is so low that it's unbearable, life should be discontinued. Cassie clearly goes on the side of life is the most important things, whereas in this case David (and many of the readers), lean more towards the quality of life side of things.

Also this was a children's series, and who knows maybe having a bunch of teenagers kill another teenager who was actually one of their group for a short period of time when they're the 'good guys' would be a bit much :P

Re: clearly we need a discussion for him too at some point

[natural-blue-26.livejournal.com]

Cassie = Dumbledore? XD (Now there's a crazy fan theory...)

What? No! ROFLing for REALZ YO

My point was supposed to be 'Cassie and Dumbledore both manipulate people for their "own good" and this is serious business' but oh well. ;) ;)

[blue_rampion]

Yes, I know - but I couldn't resist the bizarre image :P

[natural-blue-26.livejournal.com]

END SERIES MOMENT THAT THANKFULLY DIDN'T HAPPEN

-------> Cassie demorphs as Dumbledore. DDDDD:

[blue_rampion]

Clearly this is why she had to remain alive at the end. She had to BECOME DUMBLEDORE AND MANIPULATE HARRY POTTER.

although she couldn't have demorphed - obviously she went and acquired some wizard, realised he had ~*magical powers*~, and decided to become a wizard nothit

This part isn't ROFLy, so I insist on responding seperately

[natural-blue-26.livejournal.com]

Also this was a children's series, and who knows maybe having a bunch of teenagers kill another teenager who was actually one of their group for a short period of time when they're the 'good guys' would be a bit much :P

AND THEN YOU GET THE GREAT UNANSWERED FADE TO BLACK UNDEALT WITH RACHEL-DAVID STANDOFF OF DOOM THAT I WANT ANSWERS TO DAMN IT

[blue_rampion]

CLEARLY HE WAS MEANT TO BE DEAD, BUT KA COULDN'T ACTUALLY WRITE THAT IN SO SHE HAD TO MAKE IT A FADE TO BLACK :P

[natural-blue-26.livejournal.com]

OK. Yes. But so much other bad!things happen that are actually discussed (hello publishers, we start there series with Elfangor getting not just killed, but EATEN), why not this? Le sighhhh.

[blue_rampion]

Ah, but Elfangor got eaten by the enemy. Possibly it would be different if Jake had decided to eat them.

Though really, who knows? Sometimes these things can be awfully arbitrary about what is and isn't acceptable. I mean, ridiculous levels of violence are apparently okay but apparently we can't talk about sex!

[natural-blue-26.livejournal.com]

Possibly it would be different if Jake had decided to eat them.

OH DEAR LORD WHAT ON EARTH LOLing again. I either need more coffee or I've had too much... Not sure. :P

[blue_rampion]

Okay, so my mind goes into strange places sometimes. :P BUT AT LEAST I HAVEN'T BROUGHT UP THE WHOLE WHALE!CASSIE x WHALE!AFTRAN OTP THING...oh wait

[lisacharly.livejournal.com]

Also Elfangor was an alien, and we can kill all the aliens we want but it took us until book #51 for our heroes to actually kill another human on-page.

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We really need to have a discussion on Animorphs and racism / speciesism sometime, don't we?

[lisacharly.livejournal.com]

This goes without saying!

Re: clearly we need a discussion for him too at some point

[cxrdevil.livejournal.com]

I imagining that in sympathising with him, Cassie also gave the impression that she agreed with him, when that wasn't the cast.


This is a good point. I think we've all had conversations like these, where we understand where someone's coming from, but by saying "yes" and "I see" lead them to believe that we also think they're right. I never thought about it that way with Cassie and David.