ext_26117 ([identity profile] buffyangellvr23.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] animorphslj2010-10-17 11:41 pm

Character Discussion: Elfangor

I don't think I got him yet. We only saw a little of him in book one, plus the special books had him. Andalite Chronicles especially. I sometimes wish the group had gotten a chance to know him better, that he'd been around longer, and not just because of Tobias.

[identity profile] ghaweyriao.livejournal.com 2010-10-19 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
Hahaha, I would have liked to see that if only because I enjoy observing the sheer douchery of Andalite society. Seriously, the fact that the Andalites are the great good aliens of the galaxy and yet so fucked up is one of my favorite parts of the series.

You know what would have been fascinating? If, instead of killing Elfangor, Visser Three infested him.

I get what you're saying, but if you have to literally rewrite the spacetime continuum to produce a plot point, it better be something that ends up mattering. Tobias getting his morphing power back was egregiously contrived, but at least it moved the story in a significantly more positive direction.

[identity profile] natural-blue-26.livejournal.com 2010-10-19 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
Infesting Elfangor?

Holy cow. The Yeerks would have figured out so much shit SO MUCH EARLIER.

TOBIAS

TIME MATRIX

ETC

DDD:

[identity profile] ghaweyriao.livejournal.com 2010-10-19 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, I didn't even think of that! I was thinking of it from a characterization point of view . . . but Looord that woulda been bad. They would've known the Animorphs were human, which would have made the series much shorter and different, of course. And then the Time Matrix battle would've been epic.

Why didn't Visser Three infest him, though? Did they just hate each other too much? I mean, Visser Three's so obsessive about status, and that would have been a major blow to the Andalites. I guess they coudn't have done anything with Alloran (except killed him), considering there's no way Visser Three would've let anyone else have an Andalite host body. I was just thinking it would be interesting for the two of them to try to share minds. Also, if he knew about Tobias he would've known about Loren too. . . . . awwwwkward.

Also, Ax would have been SO confused and fucked up. At least when Visser Three killed his brother there was a proscribed ritual.

[identity profile] lisacharly.livejournal.com 2010-10-19 02:15 am (UTC)(link)
Elfangor was dying...and for some reason couldn't morph. *shrug* Also, V3 would have lost all his crazy evil space dragon abomination morphs.

[identity profile] natural-blue-26.livejournal.com 2010-10-19 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
Shhhhh woman we're are worst case senario AU-ing it here ;) Enough with your logic!

[identity profile] ghaweyriao.livejournal.com 2010-10-19 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
Did it ever say he couldn't morph? I thought that was just a plot hole.

Ahh, true. The Andalites really didn't go around acquiring battle morphs, did they? That always seems odd. It seems like the Andalites would go for every weapon they could possibly use. I guess it just didn't occur to them? . . . but then why would it occur to Visser Three, who is not that bright by the time the series proper starts?

[identity profile] lisacharly.livejournal.com 2010-10-19 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
Didn't he at the end of TAC?

Andalites seem pretty proud of their natural bodies, but yeah. Kind of never explained why they morphed so little.

[identity profile] natural-blue-26.livejournal.com 2010-10-19 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
I always assumed it was an Andalite ego thing

[identity profile] rena-librarian.livejournal.com 2010-11-29 06:41 am (UTC)(link)
In that instance I thought Elfangor was out of the energy to morph. The kids always talk about how exhausting it is to morph frequently. He knew he was dying, and knew it was more important to record his hirac delest and give the kids the cube.

[identity profile] natural-blue-26.livejournal.com 2010-10-19 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
Thankfully Visser Three has a HUGEEEEE ego and was so obsessed with being the only Andalite host- because he never EVER would have trusted anyone else in an Andalite host body- that it probably never crossed his mind.



....


....But what if Visser One had been but in Elfangor?

Holy mother of Tobias vs Marco angst off RIGHT THERE.

[identity profile] ghaweyriao.livejournal.com 2010-10-19 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
Not to mention Ax angst!


Plus Visser Three would be so pissed, hahahaha.