[identity profile] lit-wolf.livejournal.com
I'm re-reading the Animorphs series for the fourth time in my life and just finished #23 The Pretender. There's something that's been bothering as I've been reading these again and I wanted to get your thoughts on it. I'm putting this below a cut just in case of spoilers for any books past #20, especially the David trilogy.

Possible Spoilers Below )
[identity profile] neverfinding.livejournal.com
 hey y'all, I'm not approaching this with the thought of "What is the one hard and fast true answer to this?" because I imagine K.A. didn't try to address this .  I'm just curious about your thoughts.

Morphing: If it is based on DNA, how does the body know to return to the same age that the body was?  with the same haircut?  Would all piercings dissapear?  How about tattoos?

What happens to food you have just eaten when you morph?  Does it just go to z-space and then come back when you morph back?

Do you think that a pregnant person could morph? And remain pregnant?

*end pointless speculation*
[identity profile] lastshotringing.livejournal.com
What happens to the limbs the Animorphs lose while in morph? When they morph back, do the limbs simply disappear back into Z-space? Was this ever covered in the books? (I'm up to Megamorphs #4 and I haven't seen it.)

My re-read is really making me ask all of the weird questions... :/
[identity profile] lycoris.livejournal.com
So, I have a pretty random question. (inspired by a dream of all things!)

Would someone be able to morph contact lenses? They're not skin-tight as such but they would be pretty close to the eye. Would it work? Or would they just just pop out every time? (now that would be a pain to cope with!)
[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_dogan/
I found this very informative and applicable.

[identity profile] lastshotringing.livejournal.com
This may be spoilers? I'm not sure.

click )
[identity profile] rena-librarian.livejournal.com
Given how we've been discussing using morphing for surrogacy (resulting in a biologically related child) and sex changes, etc, here's something I've been pondering...

How would morphing affect a pregnancy? Obviously nothlits retain the fertility of their new species--see Tobias and Seerow Hamee--but that's not what I'm getting at. Nor am I referring to having sex in morph and then demorphing--I think it's fairly clear that that wouldn't stick any more than an injury in morph would.

I'm getting at some female with morphing power--Rachel, Cassie, pick an Aux Ani or even Loren in the final books if it makes you happy--getting pregnant. Then she morphs. Then she demorphs. Then what?

This is my logic, tell me yours. )


Jun. 14th, 2010 06:26 pm
[identity profile] jenil.livejournal.com
Someone in another comm. posted this, addressing Cassie's wolf morph in The Secret:

"The rest of the morph continued. My knees reversed direction. My legs grew smaller. Rough pads replaced my feet." (32)

What is that? In what universe does a wolf have backwards knees? Answer: no universe. Never. Y'all probably all know this, but wolves don't have backwards knees. Their legs are actually kind of similar to us, meaning that they have all the same bones and stuff, since we're all believed to have evolved from the same animal, or be created by a likeminded God, take your pick. The major difference is that they're digitigrades, while we are plantigrades. They walk on their tones constantly, while we walk on the whole foot. Why? Because it allows them to be quieter when hunting, and it's also faster - less of their body has to touch the ground. Being plantigrades for us, meanwhile, is good for us as well. It's a little-known fact, but humans have some of the best stamina in the animal world. We can outwalk just about anything if we really want to. That's thanks to the fact that we're bipedal, and to the fact that we walk on all of our feet, because we only have two of them to support our body weight. 

Okay, I'll stop rambling. In short, wolf legs are not backwards; their tarsals and carpals are just really long - they have an elongated ankle.

My response being: it's morphing. It's not meant to be the same twice, it's not necessarily based off the "base" skeleton, shown when they morph creatures drastically different from themselves.

Seeing as morphing is technologically impossible, how does it work in your head?
[identity profile] chiapetzukamori.livejournal.com
So I was reading the Animorphs page on TV-tropes today, and came across this:
* The kids wonder about the morality of morphing, as controlling the animal's natural mind is similar to what Yeerks do to humans. Morphing a human would literally entail controlling a human's body whilst its consciousness is forced to watch, almost exactly what Yeerks do. For this reason the kids decide early on to never morph sapient species without the permission of the person. Near the end of the series, some missions become impossible to accomplish without morphing human or Hork-Bajir, so the kids compromise their morals. By the end of the series morphing Hork-Bajir is commonplace and Tobias uses it as a battle morph.
o Just think: when Visser Three morphs a human, he gets a triple consciousness: himself, Alloran (his host body), and whoever he morphed.

See, I never thought of morphing working this way. This makes it sound like you're making a physical *and* mental copy of whatever it is you're morphing.
But I always thought that if a human was to morph another human, the second human's mind wouldn't be there, it would just be the first human changing their own appearance. It would be different for, say, Ax, since he's not a human and doesn't naturally have human instincts, so when morphs a human he would change his appearance and get whatever instincts we have. I think the moral issues only came in because it'd be like identity theft or fraud.

When Tobias morphs a hawk, he has the hawks instincts - such as an innate knowledge of how to fly, the need to drive others out of his territory, etc etc. But the original hawks mind isn't sitting in there saying "um...who are you? why are you in my head?"
Isn't he?

What do other people think of this? Admittedly, I always wondered why Cassie was so bothered by morphing a dolphin at first - I agreed with her reasoning and analysis on dolphin intelligence...but at the same time I don't think a dolphin would care too much if you morphed it. I don't think it's worried too much about identity theft. If anything, it would probably think of the whole scenario as a game. *shrugs* but I don't know. Discuss?

Okay, so

Mar. 23rd, 2010 10:04 pm
[identity profile] geritar.livejournal.com
It's probably been covered like a million times, BUT.

When the Animorphs are in a battle, and they lose a limb, and then demorph, does that limb just disappear? I mean, obviously their own human hand or arm or whatever will grow out when they demorph, but I swear I've read in almost every single book that either Rachel or Jake loses one of their paws/arms/tails and so I was just wondering what happened to those appendages... and blood, for that matter...

P.S. I bought a blue external hardrive the other day and was stumped on what to name it that would distinguish it, when it suddenly became very clear: Elfangor.
Have any of you named your electronics, cars, or anything really, something Animorphs-related?
[identity profile] anijen21.livejournal.com
all right, so per request, I am going to articulate my thoughts about morphing a little bit better here.

So the premise of this series, our favorite children's book series of all time, is that kids turn into animals to fight aliens. There are lots of stories about people turning into animals, to learn more about themselves or animals or Mother Nature or whatever. Merlin and King Arthur comes to mind. It will probably be reappropriated by Stephenie Meyer at some point...oh right it was.

The thing about morphing in Animorphs, specifically, however, is the whole sci-fi element.

It's not magic, an ancient Indian curse, or some kind of potion that turns our kids into animals. It's science.

DNA-based *cascading cellular regeneration*, I think was the term Ax used.

The series pretty much put every niggling sub-premise to rest. Kids not only turn into animals, they turn into cockroaches! birds! whales! ducks! 40 or so different Earth animals, then Hork-Bajir! Andalite! and even some humans!

It is the humans now that interest me.

The coolest caveat about the morphing technology was not only that you got to experience the animal's physical life, but also, in a sense, their mental one. Instincts, hunger, urges, and even some built-in how-to instruction manuals.

What about all of that stuff, but for humans?

I mean, we get the jokes about Ax babbling and stuffing everything he can find into his mouth like a toddler, and finding two legs ridiculous, but for serious--how would it feel to become another human?

Anyway, even though this seems like a little thing, I think it means we can apply the whole morphing conceit a little bit more easily to reality. Some sci-fi author wrote a big rant about Star Wars in some magazine and basically defined good sci-fi as the diffusion of powerful technologies through the lower echelons of society, not the desperate clinginess of higher classes of said technology. (It's a really cool series of articles that pretty much solidified my stance in the Star Trek vs. Star Wars debate.)

So, what would happen if the morphing technology pervaded all levels of human society?

I think there are a lot of cultural and sociological implications here that went unearthed. Probably because they lead to some controversial endpoints. Like I said in the last post--what would it feel like for a straight person to morph into a gay person? What would it feel like for a man to morph into a woman? I mean, even just really simple shit that I wondered in 3rd grade (and for some reason found its way into an episode of Mad Men)--does the color orange appear the same way to everyone who sees it? Do some people see pink as I see green? etc. What would happen if that implicit solipsism inherent in humanity--that we can only experience life through our own, unique physical viewpoint--was no longer a problem? How do you think that would affect society?

And then there's actual societal problems it could cure, or perhaps even cause--I mean, transgendered people wouldn't have to go through painful and humiliating surgeries to achieve their true bodies. Disabled people, with either congenital defects or debilitating injuries, wouldn't need to be that way anymore. And then what about like racial implications? I mean I'm starting to feel like I'm edging up to the part that's going to start pissing people off, but what if everyone in the world could be an Aryan male? What would we judge each other on if not gender, race, height, weight, deformity, beauty, etc.?

I don't know. Let's just talk about some of this shit here.
[identity profile] sour-boyy.livejournal.com
Hey everyone, I am new to this group but have been following it for some time. I got into the Animorphs in the fifth grade when the Predator had just come out. I think about the series a lot still, and am still a full-fledged Animorphs fan.

In any case, I was in Amsterdam this weekend and had to take a picture of this street sign I saw. I knew it belonged on this site.


Pretty cool, right?

In any case, I had a couple of questions regarding morphing and stuff that have always bothered me.

1. If Tobias morphs into his old body, does that mean, even when the rest of the Animorphs are sixteen, he still looks like a thirteen year old? Or do morphs age as well?

2. I think it was in book 32 that Rachel cuts her hair shorter. I also remember in book 10 Marco cuts his hair shorter. Does the DNA reconstruct their bodies based on the condition of their bodies before they morphed, so as to include hair-cuts and stuff? And if this is true, then why can they morph out of injuries?

Anyway, just a couple things I was thinking. Greetings from Berlin from an expat!
[identity profile] raeraem.livejournal.com
Okay, this is something that has been driving me insane since I first read the books when they were coming out.

After the group found the morphing cube, why is the possibility that Tobias can become a nothlit as a human, and then get morphing capability back through the box never mentioned?

Whether or not he would want to be human again is another discussion entirely, but I mostly just want to know why it was never brought up.
[identity profile] buffyangellvr23.livejournal.com
In The Unknown, how could Cassie do "what horses do"? Food she ate in morph wouldn't have had time to pass through...is it already in there in the horse when she morphs it?

That's like the perennial "how do they morph clothes?" lol...we know why it has to be done but not how it's possible.
[identity profile] lusimeles.livejournal.com
So... just recently got back into this series (made of win, btw) and being the huge Tobias fangirl that I am (apparently, nothing has changed in a decade), I can't help wondering about his human (re)morph. Is it logical to assume that he would age, or remain a preteen/teen forever? Hopefully this question hasn't been posted before; I checked the tags on the "Tobias" posts and didn't find it. Has this been addressed in any way by K.A. Applegate? Because I mean, I can't help thinking it would suck to be thirteen/fourteen/whatever forever. Though, the whole Kensei Takezo/Adam (Heroes ref) aspect of it would be intruiging, it would still seriously be awful if you could never get past the evil that is puberty D:

Also: Does this comm have any friending meme? Because I would love to look through one to get to know some fellow fans... ;)
[identity profile] buffyangellvr23.livejournal.com
Shouldn't Tobias or Ax be able to thought speak in his human morph? When the Animorphs morph, they can thought speak even though humans can't thought speak and neither can animals. So shouldn't that hold true for someone morphing a human as well?
[identity profile] buffyangellvr23.livejournal.com
1. If you could do a morph, which one would you do? I'd want to do several...wolf,horse,bald eagle,orca,dolphin,black leopard...it'd be hard to pick just one lol If I had to though it'd be the eagle, I've always wanted to fly. Although when I imagine myself doing a morph it's a Quetzalcoatlus, my Dinotopia boards persona.

2.What morphs would you like to have seen in the books that they never did?
1.Blue whale-just because of the size factor
2-Ostrich-it may seem odd but they can run and their kick can be deadly
3.I think Bighorn Sheep would be fun, just to do that crash helmet thing they do with each other. It'd make a nice battering ram although so does elephant or rhino
4.Komodo Dragon...that is one mean lizard lol
I wanted to say giraffe but it's in Alternamorphs
I wish they could have done more dinosaur morphs too. There are a ton of them that would have made cool morphs.

3.Were there any scenerios that you wish they had done in the books that you didn't see? Or plot ideas I mean. A Bermuda Triangle one would be fun...make it a rip into z-space or something lol. I'm curious what you all will come up with.

I also had a sort of animorphs moment while reading my Flist, someone posted a question about wolf spiders in one of the LJ cat groups. A replier said the spiders move fast and so did they and I so wanted to say "but don't step on it it might be Ax or Marco" rofl...were they the only two with wolf spider morphs? Who else had one?

More stuff

Mar. 21st, 2008 12:21 am
[identity profile] buffyangellvr23.livejournal.com
I reread The Capture and it got me thinking the same way I did at the end of the series. A controller could only morph something big enough for it to fit in, right? I have to wonder about those bird heads...would the yeerk really fit? I guess some birds would work but it'd be pretty tight. So even though Jake said the yeerk would have access to all his morphs, the bug ones would be out of the question. ETA: I just read he did do an ant morph but I don't know since Wikipedia isn't always reliable.

I wish they could have done the same thing to Tom that they did to Jake, but I know it would have just sent every controller in the area looking for him and probably got Jake and/or his family infested or everyone killed. Plus it would ruin the tension for the rest of the series, the whole thing with Jake hiding from Tom.

*caught the "under visser" mistake this time...wonder if KAA just changed it later and forgot about that one.*
[identity profile] kimhoppy.livejournal.com
This was never brought up in the books and I'm curious what other people think.  (See what happens when my mind wanders from what drugs are safe for expecting mothers.)

Would the morphing process be safe during pregnancy?  Do you think the the baby take part in the process  or would be aborted?

If it wasn't safe for the baby, would it be dangerous the whole time?  I mean, do you think someone couldn't morph during the first/second/third trimester without risk losing/injuring the baby?

If it was safe, do you think the morphing ability could be passed on, like how some things can cross the placenta and some things can't?  Would it matter if both parents could morph or only one?


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